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lumber92- 06-14-2010
How panda bear use to trigger samples?
I remember reading someone explain how he used the mixer to somehow control individual samples. Can someone please enlighten me to how this is done?


Jay- 06-14-2010

no he had two sp 404s or like 555s or wahtever, and a mixer to control the level of each sampler..

lumber92- 06-14-2010

Yeah the volume. I kinda noticed that in live videos. But how does he keep two loops from both samplers in sync. I have two samplers of my own and i imported two samples that have the same time length on (audacity) and over a course of over a minute or so the whole beat is off. Does anyone know if their is an interview where he describes any of his methods?

Jay- 06-14-2010

well you have to make sure the samples are exactly the same length and on the same tempo and beat and shit man, i dont have a sampler so i'm not really sure.

lumber92- 06-14-2010

Yeah Hes a drummer so hes always probably working superhumaly on those little things when listening to his samples. Like count off or some shit...... Self taught musicians usually end up creating some really intricate method to new music.

jonisaok- 06-14-2010

Yeah Hes a drummer so hes always probably working superhumaly on those little things when listening to his samples. Like count off or some shit...... Self taught musicians usually end up creating some really intricate method to new music. it's pretty easy to sync the tempos of two sp 555's with a midi cable... he probably does that, if he even syncs them at all.

carpe noctum- 06-14-2010

there is no midi sync. you can watch videos or read the sound on sound interview to find find that out. the sp series of samplers doesn't allow for live manipulation of volume for samples independent of each other. everything is controlled through the mixer the samplers are plugged into. what makes the band so great in this merriweather stage is their ability to sync of loops they make and play them like an instrument. they know their shit.

Sir Smallfont- 06-15-2010

there is no midi sync. you can watch videos or read the sound on sound interview to find find that out. the sp series of samplers doesn't allow for live manipulation of volume for samples independent of each other. everything is controlled through the mixer the samplers are plugged into. what makes the band so great in this merriweather stage is their ability to sync of loops they make and play them like an instrument. they know their shit. there's tricks on the sp's to control sample volumes! if you have a 404 try hitting remain while your loops are playing, pick the sample you want to effect, turn on an effect, turn down the {level} to 0, then hit the sample again and fade in the effected sample with the effect level knob

jonisaok- 06-15-2010

there is no midi sync. you can watch videos or read the sound on sound interview to find find that out. the sp series of samplers doesn't allow for live manipulation of volume for samples independent of each other. everything is controlled through the mixer the samplers are plugged into. what makes the band so great in this merriweather stage is their ability to sync of loops they make and play them like an instrument. they know their shit. actually you can control individual sample level in the sp 555 while performing live... it's as easy as tapping a sample and pressing the "start/end/level" button.

jagag- 06-15-2010

He definitely doesn't sync them though and controlling things like volume, EQ and fx will be a lot easier when you're using 2 going into one mixer. I don't know about the 555 but the 404 feels really limiting at times. To keep the song in sync, he triggers a lot manually instead of just letting it loop and its not that hard to get loops to be in time if you've got editing software or whatever, though obviously I don't know if panda would use that.

carpe noctum- 06-15-2010

there is no midi sync. you can watch videos or read the sound on sound interview to find find that out. the sp series of samplers doesn't allow for live manipulation of volume for samples independent of each other. everything is controlled through the mixer the samplers are plugged into. what makes the band so great in this merriweather stage is their ability to sync of loops they make and play them like an instrument. they know their shit. there's tricks on the sp's to control sample volumes! if you have a 404 try hitting remain while your loops are playing, pick the sample you want to effect, turn on an effect, turn down the {level} to 0, then hit the sample again and fade in the effected sample with the effect level knob damn, i really want to try this but i am having a hard time following it. and smallfont, if you hit start/end/level to adjust a sample, the second you trigger another sample it leaves that program, thus not good for live control.

bubbloy- 06-15-2010

even if they could sync the samples as they are on the sampler, any tiny difference in them hitting the buttons would get it out of sync again. i've noticed the 555 gets confused if you try to hit two buttons in too short of a time. it's kind of annoying if you are doing complex melodies with the sample buttons.

Sir Smallfont- 06-15-2010

there is no midi sync. you can watch videos or read the sound on sound interview to find find that out. the sp series of samplers doesn't allow for live manipulation of volume for samples independent of each other. everything is controlled through the mixer the samplers are plugged into. what makes the band so great in this merriweather stage is their ability to sync of loops they make and play them like an instrument. they know their shit. there's tricks on the sp's to control sample volumes! if you have a 404 try hitting remain while your loops are playing, pick the sample you want to effect, turn on an effect, turn down the {level} to 0, then hit the sample again and fade in the effected sample with the effect level knob damn, i really want to try this but i am having a hard time following it. and smallfont, if you hit start/end/level to adjust a sample, the second you trigger another sample it leaves that program, thus not good for live control. i use it pretty much for fades in and out, i don't do like volume swells with individual samples. but i mean, you could if you were quick... or just do it like panda and use two samplers and control volume with a mixer

carpe noctum- 06-15-2010

well, the problem is creating too many samples and trying to do stuff to them live. noah's solo sets are pretty straight laced, where as the ac is wild because their are three dudes controlling and triggering. i just need a band! ha ha

Sir Smallfont- 06-15-2010

even if they could sync the samples as they are on the sampler, any tiny difference in them hitting the buttons would get it out of sync again. i've noticed the 555 gets confused if you try to hit two buttons in too short of a time. it's kind of annoying if you are doing complex melodies with the sample buttons. just import the melodies so that you don't have to trigger them individually? or play a keyboard, midi controllers n shit


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